[1] :
01. Jan 2005 02:40
Finally, C= is back in the US - where it belongs.
Moloch
[2] :
01. Jan 2005 16:10
[54] www.yeahronimo.com ?
CreaMD
[3] :
01. Jan 2005 17:42
another english announcement for a german only mag. do i smell a new trend here?
person
[4] :
01. Jan 2005 18:48
now where’s that test article gone to?
person
[5] :
01. Jan 2005 18:51
I was adding a "January 2005 related news" article.
CreaMD
[6] :
01. Jan 2005 20:43
AEG... thanx for Execute Overdrive. This one was good.
CreaMD
[7] :
02. Jan 2005 08:54
[3]: didn’t you know that everyone speaks german?
[8] :
02. Jan 2005 21:01
Speak for yourself, i have enough problems with English! That said, there are some who have more problems and live ’ere... =-)
[9] :
02. Jan 2005 21:25
Thanks to Pisa, the whole world now knows, that most germans have problems with their own language...
Turtle
[10] :
02. Jan 2005 23:11
Rechtschreibreform my ass
Jan Delay
[11] :
05. Jan 2005 12:38
annyone also ’connection refused’at this moment to csdb?
shk/role
[12] :
05. Jan 2005 13:03
Look at latest CSDB posts on the right panel of c64.sk "can’t fetch new data" says it all
CreaMD
[13] :
05. Jan 2005 14:24
seems like someone really downloaded the database.
AGENT78
[14] :
05. Jan 2005 14:38
It wasn’t me
Shaggy
[15] :
08. Jan 2005 08:58
Here you can check sound from C64 DTV. http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=172622#172622 (in MP3)
CreaMD
[16] :
08. Jan 2005 16:02
An armchair eat my hamster
Jan Delay
[17] :
11. Jan 2005 09:09
Breakpoint - Executable Music (newschool)
- This is a cross-platform competition. Submit entries for any platform that is able to make noise!
Please contact us beforehand for anything that requires non-standard plugs or similar hardware to record properly.
- Supported platforms in the oldschool variant are anything with a <32bit-CPU (C64, Amiga OCS/ECS, VIC20, Atari XL, NES,...)
- The entry has to be delivered as executable program, in a format suitable for the target platform.
- Maximum size of the executable: 32768 bytes (129 blocks and 2 bytes on C64). Noters, info files, and readmes don’t count into this limit.
- No screen contents will be shown (so don’t waste your time on fancy graphics or demo effects)
- The maximum allowed pre-calculation time (in case your player needs it) is 30 seconds.
- You must deliver proof that your entry works on real hardware (i.e. bring the hardware with you and show the organizers).
- For C64 entries, please specify clearly if you require a specific SID chip version on the submission form!
- If possible, bring a MP3/OGG encoded version of your tune with you.
This shows, how much respect the Breakpoint party organisers have towards C64 as a plattform. Going the same road as Party and Assembly... "clearing" the differences.. making it all blurred to word "olschool". What will be next? oldschool demo-compo for machines < 32 bit? This year I was offered a car trip to Breakpoint, but after this example of "organizing" - no more hesitation o my side... thanx god for the chance to be at SymMekka 2002. I’ll never forget.
CreaMD
[18] :
11. Jan 2005 09:17
p.s.: "Exciting new executable music competition" - this is the sentence worth carving in to the stone.
CreaMD
[19] :
11. Jan 2005 13:40
Wow, sounds like a fair compo: sid vs. chip-music vs. softsynth-music as known from various 64k and 4k demo productions (3-voice meepbeep against some farbrausch-tunes. i guess the voting-people will think about the difference in hardware when voting....NOT!) ... (Not to mention the wierd behaviour of forbidding linux-entries) )8. Breakpoint on it’s way to ComercePoint and forward to NoMorePartyPoint?
pi
[20] :
11. Jan 2005 13:46
And don’t forget the sucky big-screening of last years c64-compos. If Breakpoint really moves on on it’s current path of self-destruction I’ll think twice before visiting another one.
pi
[21] :
11. Jan 2005 13:54
What is the sound wise difference between OCS and AGA Amigas, anyway? Ok, the latter more often have a ’beefier’ CPU so you could generate samples on the fly, but when it comes to fidelity, I can’t remember any difference. On the other hand, the voting audience will need to know the difference between VIC-I, TED, POKEY, AY, SID and all the other sound chips featured in 80’ties computers and consoles.
Anders Carlsson
[22] :
11. Jan 2005 14:25
or the audience can just vote on any tune they happen to like
hollowman
[23] :
11. Jan 2005 15:03
For once I actually agree with hollowman ;)
A good tune is a good tune (and a bad one a bad), no matter what hardware it’s make on
Britelite/Dekadence
[24] :
11. Jan 2005 15:04
Oh, and if you cared to read the rules, c64-entries will NOT compete with PC-ones...
Britelite/Dekadence
[25] :
11. Jan 2005 15:20
Does a PC with a HardSID etc compete in the oldskool or newskool category? ;-)
Anders Carlsson
[26] :
11. Jan 2005 15:37
[18] It’s actually divided in 2 executable compos, not one. So, no chance for any Farbrausch synths in the "oldschool" compo.
AGENT78
[27] :
11. Jan 2005 15:38
Uh. that was for [19].
AGENT78
[28] :
11. Jan 2005 16:02
[24] Britelite it’s a problem of respect towards the strongest 8-bit scene plattform which
traditionally had demo/music/gfx compos. C64 sceners are able to make a music compo on their own,
and there is no need to put it together with other plattforms. The reason why it is done is
discrespect towards the old hardware in general with all it’s funny weird slow demos, lousy
graphics and bleepy music.. funny it lasted so long until german biggest scene party (or let’s say, successor of the biggest scene party) started to
make cuts in the traditions ;-) Here in slovakia it stopped right after Demobit 1998.. no more 8 bits.. and guess what? Demobit no longer is organised because of lack of interest (last Demobit had about as much visitors as Forever 8-bit only party. If it’s a scene-party, why it is conforming and sacryfying traditional compos for the sake of adding of new ones, or pushing the size/hardware limits further. This will end like other scene parties which started to make optimisations in traditional party compos. It will die under the overload of bloat and uninteresting productions. If I was an organiser I would only allow limited ammount of compos. Probably only Demo/Music/gfx/wild for all plattoforms. The rest of compos can be easily organised and distributed over the internet. The most boring thing on the big parties is ammount of various compos with entries which can be produced in a shorter time, or compos with entries which should not be at the scene-party at all and which have been added "on popular demand" ;-)
CreaMD
[29] :
11. Jan 2005 16:04
[26] Yes the rules I have pasted into my reactions are from that <(less than) 32bit machines compo.. ;-)
CreaMD
[30] :
11. Jan 2005 16:16
creamd, why are you doing your whining here? atleast pi does it on the breakpoint forum aswell, where it can actually make a difference. and if the c64 scene wants respect then perhaps it should deliver more, and better contributions than it has on bp/mekka for the last few years
hollowman
[31] :
11. Jan 2005 16:24
[30] I was interensted in that "fanatic" behaviour in past, but now I just ignore PC party organisers having their great mainstream ideas. It’s a waste of time. I joined powers with people with similar ideals instead of wasting time with decadent modern sceners ;-)
CreaMD
[32] :
11. Jan 2005 16:44
[30] Ok I asked some questions although it actually doesn’t help because I think that not having a separate SID compo is bad idea in the first place.
CreaMD
[33] :
11. Jan 2005 17:22
Whatever these BP orgas have been smoking - may i have a giant bag of it ? thx
gpz
[34] :
11. Jan 2005 20:28
[34] But it seems they studied the same school of higher sophisticated daemagogy and advanced level of brainwashing as us. ;-/
CreaMD
[35] :
11. Jan 2005 22:55
[30] Holowman, did you mean something like that? http://breakpoint.untergrund.net/forum/list.php?f=1 A fight with windmills?
CreaMD
[36] :
12. Jan 2005 08:15
creamd, i think both sides arguments are rather crap, but i do enjoy you and groepaz bringing out the most arrogant side of the organizers personalities =)
hollowman
[37] :
12. Jan 2005 11:40
How about making a public request (here and/or CSDb) to boycott the party, if you think it makes more damage than benefit to the C64 part of the scene? At the end of the day, I would think it is the organizer who decides the rules of their own event. If it turns out to be a big fiasco combining "all" sound chips into one category, maybe there will be something else or no music compo at all in an upcoming year. The worst scenario for the purist is if the compo is successful with a magnitude of high-class entries for many different computers, as it would inspire other parties to follow the trend, negative or not.
Anders Carlsson
[38] :
12. Jan 2005 12:28
[36] Thanx it was quite enjoyable, but a little bit time consuming.
CreaMD
[39] :
12. Jan 2005 12:35
[37] Public boycott is not a good idea, I would rather leave it on individual judgement of the sceners. I’m sure this trend is being followed already.
CreaMD
[40] :
12. Jan 2005 12:53
@britelite & Agent78:
Sorry, I was wrong about sid competing with softsynth. Guess i was just too angry yesterday evening so my brain somehow turned off right after the beginning of the breakpoint-compo-rules.
Still I do not like how they handle the music-compos.
pi
[41] :
12. Jan 2005 15:55
Intelligence can be used for good and/or evil...
Turtle
[42] :
12. Jan 2005 16:30
Thus I am 100% neutral with no intelligence implemented
pi
[43] :
12. Jan 2005 16:32
where’s the problem? i still see c64 compos at the BP homepage. besides, i would like the idea to let other 8 bit platforms also join the c64 compo. after all, there will be only very few non-c64 releases and there is nothing to fear since the c64 has better sound and gfx balance than any of the other platforms.
Popeline
[44] :
12. Jan 2005 18:22
you gotta read up on PCE :o) wish i had one of these, rather easy to reproduce most "hard" c64 with that, and its sound surely kicks c64s ass (ofcourse, still needs a good composer, admitted).
gpz
[45] :
12. Jan 2005 22:16
"8 bit platform" as in "8 bit homecomputer". ofcourse didnt have consoles in mind (although i doubt that more than 1 release would ever pop up on a compo).
Popeline
[46] :
12. Jan 2005 22:46
It is a rather good award that it took at least five years before someone could come up with a "home video game" (including both home computers and consoles) which technically could beat the C64 without moving into a new generation of technology (i.e. 16-bit). Well, three years if you count C128 as technically superior. :)
Anders Carlsson
[47] :
13. Jan 2005 14:11
creamd, since you weren’t able to bring it up at the bp-forum .. who the heck came up with the funky rumor of me beeing responsible and/or supporting the whole idea behind the new compo?
[48] :
13. Jan 2005 14:42
Scamp.
CreaMD
[49] :
13. Jan 2005 14:42
In one of his first replies to me.
CreaMD
[50] :
13. Jan 2005 14:57
all i saw was him mentioning me in that thread, because i was one of those who got asked for their opinion about the new compo.
where exactly did he say that i came up with that idea? i heard about that first the night before the compos got announced, so i’m likely interested in what exactly makes some guys think that i’m in any way responsible for a thing that was planned lightyears before.
[51] :
13. Jan 2005 15:13
[50] I don?t know. I don?t think that you are responsible for this decision and never told that anyone. Your name was missused. I think KB took the responsibility on himself. Also, he didn?t join that futile flame ;-). Wise move. Although for obvious reasons I don?t agree with thim about the c64 music scene stagnations topic. ;-)
CreaMD
[52] :
13. Jan 2005 19:49
I was asked to stop posting to Breakpoint forums, so I do.
CreaMD
[53] :
14. Jan 2005 09:12
Merged the Freax.hu posts.
CreaMD
[54] :
14. Jan 2005 13:19
I don’t remember if this was in news already so just in case it was: site: http://www.prophet64.com/ author: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=8410
CreaMD
[55] :
15. Jan 2005 06:41
There was a demonstration of Prophet64 at World of Commodore in Toronto in early December. Very cool, imo.
Macbeth
[56] :
15. Jan 2005 18:13
I like that idea of Tiny Sidcompo.
CreaMD
[57] :
15. Jan 2005 20:57
i dont like this idea :) Because odin tracker produces tunes faaaaar awaaay from 256bytes :)
LordNikon
[58] :
15. Jan 2005 23:19
I reckon reading up on Steve Judd’s C=Hacking article about ideas how to make a tiny player. I wonder if it is doable using different instruments or even arpeggios. Maybe the player needs to be hard coded to the music to be effective.
Anders Carlsson
[59] :
16. Jan 2005 00:55
[58] well, i had no trouble doing that in a 512 byte player at least (
a life in hell
[60] :
16. Jan 2005 09:38
(i did, however, have trouble closing my tag, it seems, so i just closed it there - the link is to http://dspaudio.com/~jaymz/smallsong2.sid, which of course i did for a 4k demo last year, but i enhanced the player some - obviously i’m not silly enough to disqualify myself by uploading the song i was going to enter :-p)
[61] :
16. Jan 2005 15:16
[58] Definitely hardcoded. That’s the part of the challenge. ;-)
CreaMD
[62] :
16. Jan 2005 16:14
Tinysid is not a compo for musicians, it’s for coders. I wonder how many entries will be submitted (and how many of them will be listenable).
randalldastajsr
[63] :
16. Jan 2005 18:29
[62]for coder or musician of the old days that wrote code too.I don’t know how many enries could come and the quality of them. But if we don’t try we cannot known the answer.
[64] :
16. Jan 2005 21:29
ALiH, if I read the rules correctly, 512 bytes is supposed to include both player, music data and Basic stub (SYS-line). Depending how compact and simple you want the music to be, you save room for the player.
Anders Carlsson
[65] :
16. Jan 2005 21:32
[64]: Hmm, your song does. Never mind.
Anders Carlsson
[66] :
17. Jan 2005 01:38
[62] i disagree somewhat... i mean, the you can create the smallest music routine in the world, but yet still be defeated by somenoe who just plays $21 notes in the right order!
[67] :
17. Jan 2005 10:49
randall: or for teams of coders and musicians.
puterman
[68] :
17. Jan 2005 16:02
If you don’t feel like coding, use Steve Judd’s tiny music driver.
MagerValp
[69] :
17. Jan 2005 18:57
CreaMD
[70] :
17. Jan 2005 22:29
I dont feel like coding ;) ... (btw could i code? ;) ) ... we will see i will try doing some with steve`s music driver
LordNikon
[71] :
18. Jan 2005 16:59
I don’t feel like coding either .. ;)
TDJ
[72] :
18. Jan 2005 17:50
Lammahs!
CreaMD
[73] :
18. Jan 2005 17:51
(says the laziest of them all..)
CreaMD
[74] :
19. Jan 2005 09:17
Well, you have until the 9th of April to get inspiration (says another lazy dude who has promised to improve his music player for over a year but hasn’t got to it yet).
Anders Carlsson
[75] :
19. Jan 2005 14:57
Since naj.sk changed stats system (around nowember last year) I stopped checking
stats.. meanwhile the number of unique visitors per day increased and now it is
around 500-700 a day. On monday it was 699 visitors.
Yesterdays statistics..
Unique visitors: (649)
| |
top level domain |
visitors |
% |
| 1 |
Generic domain .net |
130 |
20,03 |
| 2 |
numeric adresses |
103 |
15,87 |
| 3 |
Germany |
88 |
13,56 |
| 4 |
Generic domain .com |
73 |
11,25 |
| 5 |
Sweden |
51 |
7,86 |
| 6 |
Holland |
38 |
5,86 |
| 7 |
Poland |
21 |
3,24 |
| 8 |
Hungary |
20 |
3,08 |
| 9 |
Finland |
17 |
2,62 |
| 10 |
Italy |
17 |
2,62 |
| 11 |
Slovakia |
15 |
2,31 |
| 12 |
United Kingdom |
10 |
1,54 |
| 13 |
Norway |
8 |
1,23 |
| 14 |
Czech Republic |
8 |
1,23 |
| 15 |
Australia |
7 |
1,08 |
| 16 |
Belgium |
7 |
1,08 |
| 17 |
Denmark |
7 |
1,08 |
| 18 |
Greece |
3 |
0,46 |
| 19 |
Japan |
3 |
0,46 |
| 20 |
Austria |
3 |
0,46 |
| 21 |
Romania |
3 |
0,46 |
| 22 |
France |
2 |
0,31 |
| 23 |
Generic domain .arpa |
2 |
0,31 |
| 24 |
Generic domain .edu |
2 |
0,31 |
| 25 |
Switzerland |
2 |
0,31 |
| 26 |
Argentina |
1 |
0,15 |
| 27 |
Croatia |
1 |
0,15 |
| 28 |
Generic domain .biz |
1 |
0,15 |
| 29 |
Generic domain .org |
1 |
0,15 |
| 30 |
Jugoslavia |
1 |
0,15 |
| 31 |
Latvia |
1 |
0,15 |
| 32 |
Malta |
1 |
0,15 |
| 33 |
Portugal |
1 |
0,15 |
| 34 |
Turkyie |
1 |
0,15 |
CreaMD
[76] :
19. Jan 2005 16:25
no.21 Romania!!! :) I think that’s me :)
[77] :
19. Jan 2005 17:25
Does .arpa really exist other than in reverse lookups? Did you have any generic domain .gov or .mil yet?
Anders Carlsson
[78] :
19. Jan 2005 20:24
i wonder if i come under United Kingdom or generic .com ...?
[79] :
20. Jan 2005 07:18
probably veneric .com
hollowman
[80] :
20. Jan 2005 10:18
[77] I don’t know. I check stats once in a while, I’ll try to check full/month stats if it will be possible after the end of january and we’ll see. Once I saw Iceland in the stats, that was quite interesting.
CreaMD
[81] :
20. Jan 2005 10:31
This is also interesting (sort of)
Operating systems (counted: 697)
| |
system
|
visitors
|
% |
| 1 |
MS Windows |
640 |
91,82 |
| 2 |
UNIX a derivatives |
41 |
5,88 |
| 3 |
Apple Mac |
12 |
1,72 |
| 4 |
other |
4 |
0,57 |
Internet Browsers - families (counted: 697)
| |
browser
|
visitors
|
% |
| 1 |
MS Internet Explorer for Windows |
352 |
50,50 |
| 2 |
Mozilla Gecko and derivatives |
276 |
39,60 |
| 3 |
Opera |
50 |
7,17 |
| 4 |
KHTML and derivatives |
14 |
2,01 |
| 5 |
other |
5 |
0,72 |
CreaMD
[82] :
20. Jan 2005 13:19
[81]: Interesting distribution of web browsers. On the site I’m working at, the current distribution is MSIE6 80%, MSIE5 12%, Gecko 5%, Safari 2% and other 1%. It is a completely different and maybe less browser "dedicated" audience though.
Anders Carlsson
[83] :
20. Jan 2005 14:16
heh, the khtml are probably all me from different IPs :)
[84] :
21. Jan 2005 19:25
Yeah yeah.. exciting is not what it used to be..
CreaMD
[85] :
22. Jan 2005 17:54
still a shame to see 50% of the sceners still using MSIE. LAMERS!
Popeline
[86] :
22. Jan 2005 19:14
Personally I think it’s lame to call other people lamers because they chose to use different programs than you. So grow up, will you?
Tdj
[87] :
23. Jan 2005 15:25
so you admit msie usage?
Popeline
[88] :
23. Jan 2005 16:51
i think the real question here is why isn’t pachyderm navigator 2.0 represented?
[89] :
23. Jan 2005 18:54
[88] The database of navigator versions and types on the web-server where the statistics are running is maybe not accurate.
CreaMD
[90] :
23. Jan 2005 20:46
yes, i use msie. i also use firefox. in the past i used netscape. in the future i might use another browser. WHO CARES?
Tdj
[91] :
23. Jan 2005 22:10
[90] This page is best viewed with your eyes anyway...
CreaMD
[92] :
24. Jan 2005 10:15
i wondered why sniffing it didn’t work...? =-)
[93] :
24. Jan 2005 12:15
The only reason not to view this page with MSIE should be the April’s Fools joke (at least last year).
Anders Carlsson
[94] :
24. Jan 2005 12:28
[93] ...after 2 years.. time to try something else.. ;-)
CreaMD
[95] :
24. Jan 2005 17:52
Can we go a whole month without anything ending up in related news?
Merman
[96] :
24. Jan 2005 19:50
[95] I?m sure I could find some stuff which deserves to be moved into related.. starting with exciting new executable music compos... ending with web page updates and redesigns..
CreaMD
[97] :
25. Jan 2005 10:28
ALiH: Nope, you’re not the only Safari user :)
MagerValp
[98] :
25. Jan 2005 11:18
Absolutely not, a friend of mine drinks the stuff every weekend!
TDJ
[99] :
25. Jan 2005 13:10
...and I thought there couldn’t be worse name for a drink than "sex on the beach..."
CreaMD
[100] :
25. Jan 2005 21:12
i’m hereby announcing the 100st post in january 2005.
person
[101] :
26. Jan 2005 00:06
@ 100: Thank you!
MacGyver
[102] :
26. Jan 2005 08:17
[100] releases please...
CreaMD
[103] :
26. Jan 2005 09:28
/ Please release me, let me go /
/ My bugs aren’t major anymore /
(Engelbert Humperdinck / Nelson Bishop)
http://www.poppyfields.net/filks/00185.html
Anders Carlsson
[104] :
26. Jan 2005 16:26
@103: ROFL!
[105] :
27. Jan 2005 10:33
c64files.com and c64.org both had server problems yesterday... parts of c64.org are still down
Merman
[106] :
29. Jan 2005 22:14
I don’t like site about game endings.
CreaMD
[107] :
30. Jan 2005 01:42
cheer up, there are also happy ends.
person
[108] :
30. Jan 2005 02:49
But isn’t it better to know beforehand that all some game gives is "Congratulaion!" on a black screen after all hard work, rather than spending the requisite 20+ hours to get there and see it for yourself (and possibly bash your C64/joystick/nearest nonliving object/nearest living object in rage)? :)
[109] :
30. Jan 2005 11:08
[108] It depends on the game. "Congratulations" is much better than restart.
CreaMD
[110] :
30. Jan 2005 11:26
Don’t know.. if it’s a simple arcadeshooter with no mega-uber story, and manages to increase the difficulty for the second round, why not restart?
[111] :
30. Jan 2005 13:03
Feh, I never can complete a game anyway (apart from Impossible Mission: I rock at Impossible Mission), so game endings are lost to me.
Tdj
[112] :
30. Jan 2005 16:03
I have played Pirates! to the end! ;-)
Jan Delay
[113] :
30. Jan 2005 17:44
Anyway.. I will put few news to related news tommorow.
CreaMD
[114] :
30. Jan 2005 19:30
MacGyver
[115] :
31. Jan 2005 14:24
"Congraturations. You sucsess."
Anders Carlsson
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