on 2nd OCTOBER 2001, GOAT TRACKER
came from version 0.9 to current v1.2. To give it's developer feedback and support
this interesting piece of software C64.SK organised a competiton lasting since
the 8th to 22th october 2001. 11 tunes were submitted, 9 competed, 41 votes collected.
And here comes the results:
GOAT RESULTS .D64?
ZIPPED .SID & .SNG PACK
SHOWING LAST 15 REACTIONS: SHOW ALL REACTIONS
22. Oct 2001 22:17
I think GoatTracker is a great tool. Until I got a new C= machine again, I was cursing and kicking walls because I couldn't compose SID music with my machine, and I was not going to use an awful emulator for such purposes (my sucky PC can't handle a high-end emulator with better sound support).
So Lasse's creation was kind of a godsend to me. I now got a new 128, but I ain't got the tools to transfer programs yet, so for now Goat proves very useful (and now became the only reason why I'm keeping that stupid beamer compatible :)
Keep up teh great work, Lasse
24. Oct 2001 19:59
Mmmmm...maybe we're judging the tip of an iceberg only.
I usually use a Plus/4 with SidCard support (8580) to compose my tunes, and it works fine coupled with the SidWinder V01.23, 'coz it replace the right c64 frq table. But I'm wondering a day of perfect SID emulation on PC, so everybody will be allowed to compose his tune.
24. Oct 2001 23:39
There have been Amiga MOD trackers on the pc for ages, so why not a sid tracker too? Maybe Goattracker in the future will be able to raise the quality of sidmusic to the next level? I think so. All I wish is an easier and more understandable UI....
25. Oct 2001 01:05
To Skyrider - trackers exist on C64 long before this. This seems to be the first one that works under the Windows platform and not a C64. It is hard to use emulation to take performance/quality to the next level because sound emulation needs to go a long way before it sounds like our real SID hardware. I do use emulators for some development, just not for sound/music writing.
25. Oct 2001 09:31
Stryyker: Yes, I know there has been lotsa trackers for the C64. My point was that as far as I know, this is the first one for the PC (and judging the compo, a pretty good one). Sorry if I made this unclear.
Anyway, Im not a C64 scener (Not the way you see it). I've created music, but not at all with a C64. currently I dont even have a C64, so I dont know how well the sidchip is emulated. It may never be 100%perfect. It's true that it has a far way to go. Yet I think it has come far comparing to some years ago...
25. Oct 2001 22:45
I think SID chip emulation has a long way to go as well, but the GT is a great tool in the case you have no real hardware to play with. If you have a HardSID card, even better. What this tool will do, IMO, is increase the number of people interested in SID music composing. This is one factor that might scare a lot of people, because it might bring the SID composing out from the 'underground'. Well, this might not happen but it's a possibility.
I have no problems with the UI, it's just great, as a matter of fact I find it a bit more user friendly than a lot of C64 trackers. That's one of the things I liked of GT.
26. Oct 2001 21:54
Akira, you're right. A large slice of my SID tunes was composed via wave coverting software on Plus/4. Useless to explain how lame they sound on the real SID, 'coz that kind of emulation takes the wavetypes only! But I'd learnt a lot about SID composing by this way...
29. Oct 2001 02:09
Currenlty 28 -sound- votesheets vere submitted 22 More votesheets needed to be filled for to make the results objective enough. This portal has average 200+ unique visitors a day. Where are you people ;-). Anyway Tommorow I'll add some of your very interesting comments (at least for me as an organiser ;-) And try to put together an executable C64 version I wanted to put together on after the compo, but it seems some of you need real C64 executable for voting. Just let me know what do you think about it? I think this demand is right, and apologise for the delay. Remember VOTING deadline is set FRIDAY 2. november 2001.
29. Oct 2001 09:42
Erm - do you want to say that before it was possible to d/l only the PC files for emulation? Well, that should explain why it seems that people aren't interested in voting, me thinks. About the voting deadline: what if by Friday 2. 11. there still isn't your desired 50 voties?
29. Oct 2001 15:36
Check http://www.student.oulu.fi/~loorni/goattunes.zip for a primitive "screen" playing all the tunes (single .PRG file)
This was a matter of 1/2 hours :-)
29. Oct 2001 19:19
Wotnau, if I won't get those +22 voties nothing happens. Lasse, thanx!
30. Oct 2001 13:05
Sorry for the problem with accessibility of VOTER's comments. Now you can check it. Enjoy.
30. Oct 2001 15:53
Skydiver???? Have I been to fast on the keyboard again?
30. Oct 2001 16:05
Ups, sorry. ;-)
30. Oct 2001 17:05
Hehe, It's alright mate!